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Player: Bulgaria  ody Subject: Fritz 12 VS Chessmaster 11 (Grandmaster edition)


2010-06-01 07:48:28
This test was conducted with two separate computers with specs as follows: For Chessmaster: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3Ghz, 4GB DDR2, Windows Vista. For Fritz: Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2220 @ 2.40GHz, 3GB DDR3; Windows Vista. Engine usage and allocated CPU power and RAM set to maximum for both engines. Time control: 30min/game. Victory conditions: best of four (or six if we deem necessary). Test provided by STJukes and Ody.-
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1Bulgaria  ody2010-06-01 07:51:02
ROUND-1. Fritz (White) kills Chessmaster 11 (black) after a miscalculated pawn sac by the latter in the midgame. Youtube link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jvCT2GzjUk Provided by STJukes

2Bulgaria  ody2010-06-01 12:13:25
What do you mean? Combine them how ?-

3Europian  cc13741628192010-06-01 12:18:47
i read about an online competition not so long ago ... gm\'s with engines played for a decent prize ... but they were all beaten by a couple of amateurs who had two engines and somehow combined them-

4Bulgaria  ody2010-06-01 13:25:04
The idea behind the whole project is to test the engines of Chessmaster GM edition and Fritz 12 against each other by themselves. Combining any of them with another engine won\'t produce a reliable result. Round 2 is half an hour away.-

5Bulgaria  ody2010-06-01 14:26:05
ROUND-1 Chessmaster (white) had a slight advantage throughout the most part of the game but fritz showed superb endgame calculations and reached a draw in what looked as a lost position. I would appreciate your comments and suggestions about white\'s options for an alternative 49th move because it looks to me that in this position white still has resources to win the game. Any feedback would be welcomed.

6United  RiverTam2010-06-01 14:49:15
There are no winning moves. Black has the dual threat of moving to b6 to drive white\'s king back a rank where white cannot both protect the pawn and avoid perpetual check and the threat of Rh1. Correct play leads to the result at hand.-

7Canada  happyjack2010-06-01 14:51:45
I would love to comment on games played by humans.My only comment on chess engines is one made by Boris Spassky\"Chess engines have ruined the game of chess\"-

8Bouvet  cc13830257352010-06-01 16:50:06
Soon computers and robots will be running this world. They might even conclude that humans are expendable.-

9Bulgaria  ody2010-06-02 14:48:47
ROUND-3. Fritz (White) scores another blazing victory against Chessmaster 11 (black) in a wild game with a distinct advantage for white throughout the most part of the game. I\'m very interested in your opinion on black\'s 9th move that allows 10.Bxf6 for white which either loses the d6 pawn or creates an obvious and extremely dangerous weakness on the kingside (which happened in the actual game). Fritz wasted no time piling up on that weakness and eventually was able to scatter and neutralize black\'s defenses.

10Bouvet  cc13830257352010-06-02 16:48:37
I have one Maybe a stupid one Would today\'s chess engines kick Deep Blue\'s buttAT the progress is made with comnputer software, I woulod tend to think so.-

11Bouvet  cc13830257352010-06-02 16:49:43
I meant to say: \"At the rate progress is made with comnputer software, I would tend to think so\".-

12Bulgaria  ody2010-06-02 17:17:14
I believe here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_engine you can find all the relevant data on the subject.-

13England  cc1422628553ChessHere Moderator2010-06-02 17:23:17
41. Rh1 would get a resignation in human play. A crushing move but fritz ignored it.-

14Bulgaria  ody2010-06-02 17:34:13
Fritz went straight for the kill. Frankly 41. Rh1 is what I expected and what I would have played in white\'s shoes for i wouldn\'t have the balls to try to pull a checkmate with the black\'s queen and bishop so close to their king. Engines... :)-

15Bouvet  cc13830257352010-06-03 10:03:48
Ody; thanks for directing me to the answer -

16Bulgaria  ody2010-06-03 12:56:37
I\'m sorry i couldn\'t give you a direct answer but I\'m not competent enough to even speculate on it. That link could give you more info than i possible could.-

17Bouvet  cc13830257352010-06-03 15:00:37
And for that I am grateful Thanks again-

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