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Player: India  kp21 Subject: For discussion


2012-10-15 10:16:48
White : Veer
Black : Kamlesh
Result : 1/2 - 1/2

This is one of the my correspondence games. I felt lots of pressure after 5. ... Kxf7. Later on, after 19.O-O-O, I decided to go for draw. The game was drawn by three fold repetition. I want to discuss the following points.
1) The move 5.Bxf7+, I think was terrible. Any better defense for this? Please discuss.
2) I think this could have won by white, not draw. Your opinion please.
3) Any other points.

Thanks,
Kamlesh Patel(KP21)
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1Europian  cc13741628192012-10-15 20:55:09
Perhaps 6...Nd7, in readiness for ...Nf6?

White\'s queen is always looking to exploit the open kingside and Black\'s exposed king; your e pawn is isolated and a major weakness, but may be kept out of harm\'s way and defended on its home square by the queen, bishop, king and ...N(b)d5/c8. The dark bishop will come out through g7, and the queen and light bishop remain unblocked.

...h6 looks likely, for example after 7 Nf3 threatening check on g5 with development problems for Black.

All you have to do is develop, stay tight and exploit the advantage.

???
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2Europian  cc13741628192012-10-15 22:47:51
Could White have won?

He or she lets up on move 15.

15 c3 frees White\'s dark bishop, but the bishop is not immediately effective and cannot pressure g6. It has options later on d2 defending queenside, e3 blocking the file, or g5/h6 in attack, while immediately White\'s king\'s position on the open e file is always going to restrict attacking chances, for example by denying the queen e4. 15 Qg4 with immediate pressure on the g pawn is tempting, followed by 16 Nf3, attacking Black\'s excellent dark bishop, but it becomes hard to castle or develop an attack with the knight on e2 pinned and the king glued to its defence.

I think I would plump for 15 Nh3, itself a strong developing move, followed by Rg1, only then Qd4, if possible, with real pressure; otherwise 15 Nh3, and 0-0, Kh1, Rg1, Qd4.

Whatever, that half-open g file would be the game plan, while the king on the open e file would be the main worry.

And I think I agree that 5.Bxf7+ was not the best move, although it\'s better than \'terrible\'.
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3Europian  cc13741628192012-10-15 23:07:47
* \'only then Qd4, if possible, with real pressure\' should read \'Qe4\'-

4Europian  cc13741628192012-10-15 23:18:26
And naturally \'Perhaps 6...Nd7, in readiness for ...Nf6? \' (#1) should read \'6...N(b)d7\' lol -

5United  cc13741101182012-10-15 23:18:36
I have to disagree with the Fish on his assessment of 5.Bxf7+?. I think its just bad because there is no forcing follow up. The only reason White got play is because Black did not make the best moves and gave him counter chances.

Also, 8...Bd6 seems more active than 8...Bg7. For example: 8...Bd6 9.Qe2 Nc6 10.Nf3 Bg4 and Black is fully developed and two pawns up.
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6Europian  cc13741628192012-10-15 23:33:38
Well, yes, bad. 8...Bd6 is nice, too. In that sense, 6...e5 is a gambit that goes wrong?-

7India  kp212012-10-16 09:04:20
Thanks angelfish, Frederator and Windmill for your useful comments.

8...Bd6 is nice one. as it prevents further attack and meantime develops.

Also windmill\'s suggestion received through personal message is 6... Nc6 7. Nf3 e5 8. O-O Nd5 9. Qe2 Nxc3 10. bxc3, looks sound. It prevents the attack and develops.(see attached pgn)

8United  cc13741101182012-10-16 11:10:48
I agree with Windmill\'s assessment that 6...Nc6 is better than 6...e5, which basically just gives back a pawn.

However, I think moving the same Knight four times in the opening with 8...Nd5 is suspect. For example, 9.Nxe5! wins the e pawn after 9...Nxe5 10.Qh5+. Maybe 8...h6 and 9...Kg8 improves.
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9England  cc1422628553ChessHere Moderator2012-10-16 13:09:03
I`ve been caught out by that sacrifice a few times but it`s always been backed up with a knight in the vicinity. White just doesn`t have the firepower on hand to gain advantage So, as white I would have played 5.Bb3
Fred would find himself two pieces down with 10...Kd6 and chasing.
I suppose, after windmills scenario it would be 10.Bg4 and take the knight off. ( when a piece ahead exchange }
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